GLAVAS: Although Kljajic without any reason attacked me in an uncivilized manner, he cannot harm me because his accusations are motivated by nothing but hatred and vengefulness. I am glad that I am on a way to unmask a dangerous and evil individual and remove him from official functions. I sincerely hope that an end of terror by Petar Kljajic and his sons in the city and the county has arrived.
VL: How come your relations have changed so quickly? Haven't you two collaborated for years in the HDZ and even founded the party together?
GLAVAS: It is true that he early joined the effort to found the HDZ. But unlike me, who entered that endeavor motivated and blinded by nationalist idealism, he had different motivation. At the time we were not aware that he is a dangerous man, surrounded by murderers and blood revenge. Although during his tenure he managed to hide his true face, all of this can be documented by papers stored in the archives of the Court, Police, and prison. Let the public make its judgment about all this, since irresponsible state officials have turned a blind eye to him and appointed such a person for the head of the County Court as early as in 1990. During the last year I managed to put together a mosaic around Petar Kljajic. For the first time I realized what sort of a person he was when in a letter to President Tudjman he consciously slandered Krunoslav Olujic portraying him as a dishonorable person.
GLAVAS: All those stories about heroism are lies. His son Domagoj was not wounded as a Croatian soldier, but as a participant in a hooligan incident in front of the White Barracks in Osijek where individuals provoked [the Yugoslav People's Army to] fire from automatic weapons on civilians. Late Police chief Kir informed the public about that, but because of the general situation and the war we had to find an excuse for those on our side who were responsible for the slaughter. His other son was grazed by a bullet fired by himself in the spring of 1992, in front of several witnesses. That did not prevent him to become the head of the Association of the Volunteers of the Homeland War and manipulate them. Does he think that evidence and witnesses of his looting expeditions on kiosks damaged by Chetnik grenades are lost? The case of a slain policeman in Djakovo is also a consequence of an incident caused by Domagoj Kljajic, and everything has been done to hush that down. His other son pointed a handgun at a policeman in front of passers by, because the policeman was removing his illegally parked vehicle. Nothing has been done in this case.
VL: Hasn't Kljajic achieved envious successes and high appointments in the HDZ and Croatian judiciary during the last ten years?
GLAVAS: He wanted much more because of his sick ambition. At the 1992 elections he got it in his head that he had to be at least a vice-president of the Parliament. When he found out that he would remain an ordinary member of the Parliament he insulted president Tudjman in an ugly letter and resigned. Last year, after the resignation of Governor Horvat, he proposed himself for the Governor by manipulating the association of the Victims of the War. However, Vladimir Seks merely crumpled his letter and threw it in a bin, so that it was never discussed.
GLAVAS: I have filed and will keep filing charges with the Police if I believe that there are reasons for investigations against certain individuals. Arrest warrants are not issued by me or Petar Kljajic but by the state prosecutor and the final decision is made by a judge in the investigative prison.
VL: If Kljajic discredited by his behavior both the Croatian state and Croatian judiciary, why hasn't he been punished earlier?
GLAVAS: If there are no honest supervisors in the hierarchy of power, such characters are protected like endangered bears. During 18 months of my work in the Croatian Army, I informed president Tudjman about the head of judicial authorities in the county. President slammed his fist against a table and ordered that a way to get rid of Kljajic be found, so that he could stop harming Croatian national interests.
VL: Who was ordered by president Tudman to do that?
GLAVAS: Competent persons who participated in that conversation and cannot be named. I do not know why that was not done. Perhaps they are discredited persons, perhaps cowards who are not able to confront similar individuals with criminal connections.
GLAVAS: I had a serious conversation with Vlado in November 1998. On that occasion I emphasized my disagreement with the continued appointment of corrupt individuals to important functions. Because of such individuals I announced at the time my departure form the HDZ, but Vladimir Seks convinced me that we had to go on. Now, I am not sorry because Kljajic fell into his own trap. During our recent meeting, Seks agreed that Kljajic gave us an opportunity to remove him from the judiciary for all times with his arrogance and stupidity. He emphasized on that occasion that we now had a definite chance to get rid of Kljajic.
VL: Kljajic was severely criticized by the international community after the trial of the "Sodolovci Group", but he claims that that group of Serbs from the Danube region was sentenced, allegedly without valid evidence, exactly because you insisted on that?
GLAVAS: The very same night when the so-called Sodolovci group was sentenced, I called Vesna Skare-Ozbolt and told her that such a decision was a shame for the Croatian judiciary and for the most part a consequence of a trial staged by people convinced that Croatia is their toy. My suspicions increased once I saw the names of individuals who signed the verdict, since those individuals had previously passed sentences in connection with unsolved murders and utterly outraged citizens. That is a revenge of boneheads who decided that they were a real court and such people can in the near future set up a show trial against anyone and sentence him to ten years. But, if they think that their standing in the public will increase if they arrest Serb paupers, they should start with their own beds.
GLAVAS: She was surprised because Kljajic had been telling the state institutions and the international community that I had insisted that those Serbs be arrested, which is a morbid lie. She agreed that we had to find a way out of a maze into which Kljajic pushed us, but also continue to take care of the protection of the Croatian judiciary.
VL: How come the Minister and the responsible officials from the Ministry of Justice did not know about all of these events?
GLAVAS: Those gentlemen do not care about such things. The purpose of their visits to courts is not to resolve piled up problems but to kowtow to each other. Those men are lost in time and do not understand that 1991 is behind us. I recently discussed that problem openly with Dr. Pupovac and Dr. Stanimirovic [leaders of Croatian Serbs], and you can asked the mentioned gentlemen about my attitude with respect to the head of the County Court.
VL: Are you a dangerous man, as Kljajic claims?
I am dangerous, very dangerous, but only for those who are convinced that Croatia is their backyard in which they can do anything they want, and Petar Kljajic is definitely one of them. That evil will be uprooted from here. Normal citizens will celebrate Kljajic's dismissal, and criminals will be worried. If you do not believe me, conduct a public opinion poll in the city and the county.
I do not need Kljajic to rig elections for me. I've convincingly won all elections so far. Do you think I am so careless to discuss such a topic with such an individual?